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Date:	Sat, 26 Jun 2004 02:11:33 PDT7
From:	Peter Skye <pskye@peterskye.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Testing - ignore if you can

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Steven Levine wrote:
>
> I was actually trying to grab the message while it was sitting in the
> outbound queue. There appeared to be more than enough bad boys in there
> for there to be sufficient delay in sending of my message back, but that
> was not the case.

I've tried that too. There seems to be a maximum of 25 threads (that's
the largest thread number in the logs) so as long as your message is #26
you might have time to snatch it.

> I did find some rather interesting que files. The ones with your name
> repeated 30 or 40 times were very interesting. Nice failure mode.

Yeah, and there's also one list member who uses well.com. That's the
worst one -- I've seen well.com .que files grow to be huge.

My own domains go through ZoneEdit which does spam content checking, IP
blacklisting and occasionally has a mail forwarder down. My SCOUG
"holds" due to ZoneEdit (typically a dropped connection) usually clear
up fairly quickly; once in a while they hit the timeout value or get a
bounce and end up in postmaster.

SCOUG also uses ZoneEdit for incoming mail which includes incoming list
messages.

If you want to see the spammer connections, go to the socket log and
take a peek. D:\SkyeTool\NetStatLog.rpt, just ignore the two IP
addresses for ZoneEdit which are valid @scoug.com connections (although
they still might be spam) and you'll see all the other direct SMTP
connections which are incoming junk. Recently we had a sender in France
that kept three connections open for two days. Sometimes if I shut down
InetMail for about 10 minutes and restart it they don't sign back on but
Mr. France was back as soon as I ran netstat. InetMail lets you block
specified IP addresses but what we need is to *allow* specified IP's so
the stuff from ZoneEdit can get through but the spammer direct-connects
get blocked. We could do this at the router but I don't want to get
involved in that direction. We get double-spammed with the current
setup: relayed through ZoneEdit plus direct connect on our IP address.

- Peter

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