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Date:	Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:38:37 PDT7
From:	Sheridan George <s-geo@usa.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@pacbell.net > , scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: firewall issues at meeting location ?

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Jordan,

I did receive Steve's post and was waiting for your response (below).

I looked at both Shoutcast.com and Somafm.com. I was able to get into the sites and click on a
broadcast without anything melting. The only response I got is "what process should be used to open
?" type question. I tried MS Media player and it said "... format unknown."

I asked one of my computer whiz-kids to check out both sites (without telling him what I had done -
I just gave him a copy of your post). His analysis was we didn't have the correct program to play
the music but there was no firewall problem.

If there is a program I could download onto my wife's work laptop (WinXP) I could run it over to
school and test again, if that makes sense.

Sheridan

J. R. Fox wrote:
> Hi Sheridan,
>
> Steve tells me that he cc'd his message to me over to you, so I will just paste in my response.
>
>
>>Thanks for mentioning that Steve, and good idea. I *may* have resolved my Z!
>>issues now (not quite the "why" of it, but at least _what_ seems to be going
>>on -- see my forthcoming post to the List), but that won't address the
>>concerns you raise. There is no way I can get down there for an additional,
>>"auditional" trip, so I think it will have to be your 2nd. idea or nothing.
>>Do you happen to have Sheridan's email address handy ? I think he could
>>probably answer this with a quick test.
>>
>>If Z! falls out altogether, it won't be a disaster, as that is projected to
>>be only the tail end of my demo. It's debateable whether that part would be
>>worth doing without streaming radio, but there are some other Z things that
>>could be covered. It would just shrink down from about a 15 minute portion
>>to about 5.
>>
>>Come to think of it, though, if my incoming stream would get zapped, that
>>could well put a big crimp in the radio / TV stuff that Jerry was going to
>>demo after me. That being said, Jerry has been known to leave little to
>>chance, so I wouldn't be shocked if he had some kind of a closed-circuit,
>>strictly local alternative in his back pocket -- a la when he faked a
>>real-time internet connection at the Fullerton Library.
>
>
> The reason it's not feasible for me to come down there some day prior to the meeting is that it is a 1
> hour drive for me, each way. However, it is a very quick and simple test for you to verify the status
> on this question. You don't need Z!, according to Steve. Using any browser, in any OS, just go to
> Shoutcast.Com and see what happens when you click on one of their station links. Or try their
> alternate page at Somafm.Com . As my recent post indicates, there are other possible reasons why
> you could get a negative result, or no music would come through (e.g. -- no music player of any kind
> is installed on the test machine), but I think the failure may be more distinctive if it is a firewall
> that is immediately blocking access. There must be some tell-tale sign, and I'm sure Steve would know
> what that is.
>
> As I mentioned, this could also have some implications for what Jerry intends to do.
>
>
> Jordan
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