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Date:	Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:02:21 PST8
From:	jbrush@aros.net
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Archive boot, was Checkini hang / Robosave !?

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>I tried to discuss on rational !

>You answered emotinal ;-(

What? I don't think so.

>Back to rational:

Back to? What did I say that was irrational? You said Robosave was old,
and I pointed out that so is OS/2.

What is irrational is using some sort of off the wall criteria to judge
the usefulness of a piece of software based on its age. I guess that begs
the question of what is too old to be used? Is there a "best if used by"
date you apply to software to disqualify it? :) I use MR/2 ICE, FM/2,
quite a few tools that have been ported from *nix that have been around
for a while, and they all seem to provide what I need, in spite of their
age. Do you judge software by its age, or by its usefulness?

>I do not know if WARP Version 3 already was on the market
>in 1993 but WARP Version 4 came at the and of 1996.

>So ROBOSAVE is a tool of 1993 and has not changed since !!!

And Warp 4 is an OS who whose basic structure has not changed since its
inception in 1996. You probably don't want to know about all the "old"
code in OS/2 that has been around since like 1991. :)

>OS/2 WARP, whatever versions and opposite to ROBOSAVE,
>has gotten very many FixPacks and other updates very frequently.

But none of them have anything to do with archiving the desktop and system
files. Software only becomes obsolete when it no longer does the job, not
just because the date stamp is judged to be too old.

>I had preferred to hear more good and technical facts from
>experienced ROBOSAV users to have points to compare
>it with the WPS builtin archive tool ;-))

But you didn't ask anything about it, you just said it was too old for you
to use because for some reason, you think that the fixpaks have changed
the basic system and file structure of the OS, which I think is a wrong
assumption. Most any program ever written for OS/2 will still run on Warp
4.52, and I think that is a good thing, not a detriment.

Anyway, I just offered a suggestion. If Robosave was no good because it is
"old" then how is it that quite a few folks use it, I have always used it,
and it works just fine having never, ever let me down?

Being older doesn't make software not work, or be of no value. I am most
willing to bet that the WPS archive you are using has not changed since
Warp version 3, so you may want to check into that to see if you should be
using it. You should try it before you condemn it. It can do more than the
WPS archive, is much more flexible, and easier to deal with, instead of
assuming anything based on its 'age'

>Have a nice day, svobi

I'm working on it! :-)

John

>jbrush@aros.net on 25/01/2004 19:36:58
>Please respond to scoug-help@scoug.com
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>Subject: SCOUG-Help: Archive boot, was Checkini hang / Robosave !?

>>In my eyes ROBOSAVE from 1993 is very, very old !

>I'm sure I don't need to remind you that Warp 4 came out only three years
>later. Its easy to forget, but Warp 4 is very, very old as well :)

>>I believe that ROBOSAVE does not match the new system
>>folder and file structure of WARP Version 4 !!

>What "new" system folder and file structure?

>I have used it many, many times for the last 8 or 9 years. I don't know
>what you think has changed, but there is no evidence of such change on my
>systems, or others who I know are using it.

>>Myself I would really hesitate using such old stuff on my
>>accurate system !!!

>Your base system is nearly as old...... but it still works, right?

>>BTW: I am very happy and satisfied with the WPS builtin
>>archive tool but ONE needs to adjust the OS2.KEY file
>>to match ONES system needs !!

>Then that is the tool you want to use.

>One can very easily tweak the profile for Robosave to backup anything you
>want. Can't do that with the WPS archive, but it is all a personal
>choice.

>Thanks, John

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