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Date:	Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:15:05 PST8
From:	"J. R. Fox" <jr_fox@pacbell.net >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Re: alternatives to the Utility Diskettes ?

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John wrote:

> >Does one of you have a working solution ie with CD-ROM, DVD or USB ?
>
> I created a bootable CD for OS/2. Its not for booting with the purpose of
> installing, but it simply boots you up to the command line so you can run
> fdisk, chkdsk, tedit, or whatever you need.
>
> Its an ISO image, so if you can burn that, I can send you the file, just
> under 3Megs.

If it happened to support U2 SCSI and a few other selected things (doubtful), I would be interested in checking it out.

> There is the catch that the ISO image does not contain any utilities, so
> they have to be elsewhere on the CD, on a second CD player, or on the hard
> drive.

What do you mean by "elsewhere on the cd ?" This must be a byproduct of the method by which you built this cd ? Hayo Baan, the author of Bootable (not the only approach to making a useful, non-install self-boot cd for OS/2 or eCS -- there have been several
"cookbook" articles published in the VOICE newsletter since about 2000), told me that some have used his program to make cd's that include all sorts of util.s, internet access (which the forthcoming eCS demo cd is going to be able to do), etc. I think the key
issue about app.s is going to be: Do they need to *write* stuff, such that you can't be dealing with RO files -- which are the only kind you can have on a cd ? That can probably be finessed via the Ram Disk, which most (all ?) of these self-boot schemes rely
heavily upon, anyway. I think the eCS demo cd is going to be pretty cool, resolving your particular hardware -- whatever it happens to be -- in the course of booting.

Incidentally, I don't believe anyone is ever going to see the equivalent of this in the Win-32 world, not even from the most ingenious hackers. There have been no Ram Disks allowed under Win since W98. Linux apparently does have useful self-boot cd's like this,
such as Knoppix.

Jordan

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