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Date:	Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:34:36 PDT7
From:	Peter Skye <pskye@peterskye.com >
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: Mozilla 1.7.2 new speed test results

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This morning I compared the browser load speeds of Mozilla 1.7.2,
Mozilla 1.0, Netscape 4.61, and Netscape 2.02.

Quick summary:

-- 1. Mozilla 1.7.2 Preferences don't render properly on my machine.
The window size is "too small" and some of the info is cut off. I did a
screen capture; the zip of that capture is 17K (unzips to 750K) if
anyone wants to see it.

-- 2. Steven suggested creating a new Moz 1.7.2 profile which did not
have any "imported" Netscape 4.61 settings. I tried this, but the load
speed did not improve. The disk cache is 50 MB. There does not appear
to be a RAM cache setting.

-- 3. Ray asked if web sites other than my home page were slow. Yes,
they are. For example, the BBC home page takes 75 seconds to come up.

-- 4. The load speeds for my 1.5 MB home page are:

mm:ss Browser
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0:39 Netscape 2.02
1:12 Netscape 4.61
4:10 Mozilla 1.0
38:10 Mozilla 1.7.2

Yesterday I said Mozilla 1.7.2 took 25 minutes, but that was "sort of a
guess" because I walked away after about 20 minutes and it was done when
I got back. The 38 minutes above is correct.

Steven did some testing and found a noticeable difference when H1 and H2
tags were inserted or removed (see his Monday 23:31 PDT message). I
therefore tested with all H3 tags removed from my home page, but Moz
1.7.2 load time was still extremely slow.

Complete test results are below.

At this point I'm stuck. The three earlier browsers have acceptable
performance, but Moz 1.7.2 is unuseable. Anyone have any suggestions?

I could, if necessary, test with some of the Mozilla versions between
1.0 and 1.7.2 to see where the speed slowdown first occurred. That
would take several hours of my own time so I hope I can avoid such a
test.

One other possibility is that the problem is due to the particular 1.7.2
I am using. I'm using the Peter Weilbacher version which Ray
recommended (see his Sat 19:24 and 19:28 PDT messages).

- Peter
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Mozilla 1.7.2 Testing

TU 20040831:

Settings for Mozilla 1.7.2:
Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cache: 50 MB disk
Mozilla does not have a setting for "RAM memory cache"
Preferences window does not render properly. See
screen capture titled Test-Mozilla172-ScreenPrefs.
748878 9577 Test-Mozilla172-ScreenPrefs.bmp
17369 0 Test-Mozilla172-ScreenPrefs.zip

Loading SkyeHome.htm using Mozilla 1.7.2:
File: 8-30-04 11:03p 1562622 15950 SKYEHOME.HTM
Timing:
00:00 start
00:47 orange Mozilla splash screen went away
00:58 SkyeHome.htm finished being read (according to
View->Details->Refresh Now)
38:10 page finished loading by Mozilla 1.7.2
Note: Bottom of Mozilla window says "Done" but does
not display an elapsed time. Mozilla 1.0
displays an elapsed time.

Loading BBC News using Mozilla 1.7.2:
URL: http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Timing: 1:15 to load the page

Loading SkyeHome.htm using Mozilla 1.0:
Timing:
00:00 start
00:48 dragon Mozilla splash screen went away
02:26 SkyeHome.htm finished being read (according to
View->Details->Refresh Now)
04:10 page finished loading by Mozilla 1.0
Note: Bottom of Mozilla window says:
Document: Done (201.58 secs)
Mozilla 1.7.2 does not display this info.

Loading SkyeHome.htm using Netscape 4.61:
Timing:
00:00 start
00:15 lighthouse Netscape 4.61 splash screen went away
01:10 SkyeHome.htm finished being read (according to
View->Details->Refresh Now)
01:12 page finished loading by Netscape 4.61
Note: Bottom of Netscape 4.61 window displays a
running status prompt while page loads. It
does not display a final elapsed time.

Loading SkyeHome.htm using Netscape 2.02:
Timing:
00:00 start
00:06 green Netscape 2.02 splash screen went away
00:38 SkyeHome.htm finished being read (according to
View->Details->Refresh Now)
00:39 page finished loading by Netscape 2.02
Note: Bottom of Netscape 2.02 window displays a
running status prompt while page loads. It
does not display a final elapsed time.
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