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Date:	Wed, 24 Sep 2003 00:28:54 PDT7
From:	waynec@linkline.com
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	"SoCal OS/2 User Group" <scoug-help@scoug.com >
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: 40gb IDE drive revisited?

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You may recall my travails last June as I tried to install a 40gb IDE drive
on a new barebones computer which also has (2) 9gb scsi drives.
I am once again having difficulties, and I am hoping someone here can steer
me in the right direction.

Due to an illness (and subsequent death) in the family, I was away for
several months and not using the new system. Before I left I had it working
quite well, with a WinXP system on the ide and a Warp system on the scsi,
set up for boot manager, and could boot and run either.

Very soon after returning home, I caught the "w32.swen" virus on WinXP (see
my reply post on the "returned email" thread), and I ended up trashing that
partition before it was over.

I have rebuilt the WinXP partition, and had to let the install program
reformat the partition and remove it from the boot manager, as it will only
install WinXP to the first primary partition on the first drive. Now I can't
get boot manager working correctly and I can't remember exactly how I had
previously set it all up, or how I had the WinXP partition formatted.

The ide drive has:
- a 4gb primary NTFS partition with WinXP (label "WinXP"),
- a freespace of 1 cylinder in case I want a boot manager here
- a hidden HPFS logical Warp partition that is not currently in use,
- a lot of freespace.

The first scsi drive has:
- an OS/2 bootmanager partition,
- a hidden FAT16 partition ("C_subst") for use as a substitute C: partition
in case I need to disconnect the ide drive,
- a hidden Warp HPFS logical partition ("Warp1vol") for emergency
maintenance use,
- a Warp HPFS ("ScsiWarp") logical partition
- 3 FAT16 data logical partitions
- 3 FAT16 one-cylinder placekeeper logical partitions (simply there to allow
drive letters that follow to match another computer)
- an HPFS logical data partition

The second scsi drive has a single HPFS logical data partition that is
currently empty.

FDISK, run from updated install diskettes, shows all 3 hard drives, mapped
correctly. PQmagic ver5, strangely, sees the ide and the first scsi drive,
mapped correctly, but doesn't show the second scsi drive.

The Bios is set up to boot from the first scsi drive to bring up OS/2
bootmanager. If I put Warp1vol and ScsiWarp (only) in bootmanager, the boot
manager screen shows these partitions (with Warp1vol as hidden) as C:
drives, which is incorrect, because I need them to be D: drives. Apparently
it doesn't recognize the ide drive primary partition.

I have tried to put WinXP in the bootmanager, but strangely, the partition
that shows up in the bootmanager screen is the bootmanager itself, an 8mb
partition (I have done multiple iterations, and this IS what it does).

If I highlight that 8mb partition entry and hit enter, it simply highlights
the ScsiWarp entry.

If I try to boot ScsiWarp from the boot manager screen, I get the initial
bootup selection/timer screens, followed immediately by the message "OS/2 is
not able to operate your hard disk or diskette drive." Hard wait.

If I "unhide" the C_subst partition, the boot manager screen shows the 2
scsi partitions as D: drives, but if I boot ScsiWarp, I get the same "OS/2
is not able...." message.

If I disconnect the ide drive and "unhide" C_subst, then OS/2 boots fine.

If I reconnect the ide drive,and change the bios to boot from the ide drive,
then WinXP boots up fine.

I tried moving the boot manager partition to the ide drive. Same problems.

I have run chkdsk against the scsi partition and it is fine. I have tried to
run diagnostics against the WinXP drive, but WinXP won't do that while it is
running, rather it asks you if you want to schedule a run for the next
bootup, and if you do so, it seems to take a long time booting but no
messages are shown (blank screen) before the normal signon screen, so it's
difficult to tell what happened. I have to assume that the drives are OK,
since I can boot one or the other of the two operating systems, I just can't
get them both on the boot manager screen, nor can I boot ScsiWarp when the
ide drive is connected.

One questionable area: I think (I'm not certain) I may have formatted the
WinXP partition as FAT32 originally back in June; this time it was formatted
as NTFS. HPFS and NTFS both have partition code "07". Could this be a
problem? I am reticent to go through yet another WinXP install and
customization just to find out. Other partition codes on the drives appear
to be normal OS/2 codes.

What else should I look at to resolve this problem so I can use boot
manager?

Wayne

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