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Date:	Thu, 8 May 2003 15:05:20 PDT7
From:	GARY.WONG@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
To:	scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject:	SCOUG-Help: ThinkPad T20 freezes/locks up, continued

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Actually, it booted up OK ***before*** I did /NEWMBR
because I forgot to change the boot sequence to try to
boot from CD before booting from HD.

I called the guy that services the Edison facility in
Irwindale (where I work) and he seems to agree that
heat buildup may have caused the machine to freeze
(the fan IIRC did not come on at all).

I called IBM back and they will ship me an EZServ box
to ship the ThinkPad to them. They bought the
argument about the hotter the machine got, the more
likely it would freeze and not the fact that the MBR
or BM was at fault. In fact, when it froze this
morning, it was trying to boot from the MCP2 CD's.
--- Original Message ---
From: "Steven Levine"
To: scoug-help@scoug.com
Subject: SCOUG-Help: ThinkPad T20 freezes/locks up,
continued

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>In ZZ@www4.prodigy.net>, on 05/08/03=
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> at 09:17 AM, GARY.WONG@sbcglobal.net said:
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>>Then I booted from the MCP2 CD's and re-wrote the
MBR
>>after some trial and error (syntax is LVM /NEWMBR:1,
>>apparently it wants the drive #,
because "LVM /NEWMBR"
>>said it's missing a ":", then "LVM /NEWMBR:" said it
>>wants a drive #.)
>
>So it does. For some reason, someone felt the need
to change this. It's=
>
>documented, but not expected.
>
>>At this point, since I was able to boot cold from
the
>>HD, would you say maybe the MB is too hot and the
>>machine freezes (which may mean either the temp.
>>sensor that tells the cooling fan to turn on is bad,
>>or the cooling fan itself, or both)?
>
>Could be either. If you have a fan, you can test for
heat problems by
>blowing air on the unit to see if it will stay up
longer with forced air
>circulation. You could also put the unit in an oven
at 120=B0 or so and =
>see
>if the built-up heat causes a failure to boot. If
you use heat, be
>careful to not get the unit so hot inside the case
that something melts.
>
>Given that replacing the MBR and BM seems to have
helped somewhat, if you=
>
>do have a heat problem, it's possible that some data
got clobbered during=
>
>the failures.
>
>Steven
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